obama is not that kind of guy. he is a more intro verted guy so it's not like we are blood brothers together, we played football together, we played golf together that is not there. >> rose: so the election will depend as they head to the crucial period between now and november 6s, on the debate. >> right. >> rose: can, i mean is there other than something happening, is it unlikely that something happening being an external event in the international front or b, a debate that is so one-sided which i think is unlikely to be one-sided. the best that could happen would say to me is that the person who is less well-known or the person who has the most interest in changing the impression of himself can achieve that. >> right. >> rose: that would be reagan. >> what argument is romney going to make? what is the bumper sticker. what is the core argument. and so if romney said listen, first what makes you thin think-- what make you think the next four years will be better than the last four that is one good argument. second